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CMS Vendor meme

CMS Vendors go head to head

A few weeks back CMS Watch’s Kas Thomas posted his “reality checklist” for CMS vendors. Each vendor should ask themselves 15 tough questions about their product. Now Day has put down the challenge to all other CMS vendors, the CMS Vendor meme, to answer the questions from the check list.

Now, next to Day the CMS vendors have been posting their scores. Currently the leaderboard looks like:

  1. 44/45 – e-Spirit ***
  2. 43/45 – Jahia
  3. 43/45 – Hippo CMS
  4. 42/45 - Magnolia
  5. 42/45 – EPiServer
  6. 42/45 – GX *
  7. 42/45 – Midgard
  8. 42/45 – Nuxeo **
  9. 41/45 – infopark
  10. 41/45 – KnowledgeTree
  11. 40.5/45 – Enano
  12. 40/45 - Day
  13. 40/45 – Alfresco
  14. 40/45 – GX
  15. 40/45 – CoreMedia
  16. 40/45 – Sitecore
  17. 40/45 – Alterian
  18. 40/45 – OpenText
  19. 40/45 – Ez Systems
  20. 38/45 – dotCMS
  21. 37/45 – Vignette
  22. 37/45 – Autonomy Interwoven
  23. 36/45 – Escenic
  24. 33/45 – Sense/Net
  • bold scores are where the vendor did not score themselves but it was subsequentally worked out by Jon Marks
  • * Score adjusted to reflect original scoring system
  • ** Vendor does not seem to be able to add up :)
  • *** Was 45, now 44

Many of the answers to the checklist are very tongue in cheek but many of the questions do not really go deep. Mostly the questions surround how available software is either to download, easy it is to install or how clear the pricing is. These are indeed important things but I do feel the list missing something more concrete. Only two of the questions (3 & 7), for instance, address something to do with content editing. Surely this is one of the most important areas to cover and thus deserves more attention?

Of course this list is not a complete check list, but it seems more tuned towards vendors such as Alfresco as most of these types of vendors will probably score highly. However, it is nice to see the vendors interacting together and at least, it seems, giving honest scores.

Update 19/03/2009: Adding the meme ID 9c56d0fcf93175d70e1c9b9d188167cf suggested by Bertrand Delacrétaz. Find more related pages on Google.

Update 19/03/2009: Added infopark

Update 19/03/2009: Added dotCMS and Midgard (no scores yet though)

Update 19/03/2009: Added Vignette (no score either)

Update 20/03/2009: Added Nuxe (finally a score!)

Update 20/03/2009: Updated Escenic’s score

Update 21/03/2009: Added Sitecore’s, EPiServer’s & OpenText’s scores

Update 22/03/2009: Added Autonomy Interwoven (no score)

Update 23/03/2009: Added Alterian & Hippo CMS

Update 25/03/2009: Updated scores according to Jon Marks blog

Update 27/03/2009: Added KnowledgeTree

Update 02/04/2009: Added Enano

Update 03/04/2009: Added Ez Systems

Update 09/04/2009: added e-Spirit & Sense/Net

Update 15/04/2009: Updated e-Spirit score

Discussion

17 comments for “CMS Vendors go head to head”

  1. I agree that content editing would be useful to include, as that is what most users of the system will do. Still, going into details might result in a full-blown RFI-type answers, and a “reality checklist” should be just that.

    Escenic does have some more information about content editing in Escenic Content Studio, including screenshots, on this page: http://www.escenic.com/products/ecs/

    Posted by Christian Løverås | March 18, 2009, 3:26 pm
  2. I think these questions are great, but they aren’t meant to be product specific issues. They’re about the vendor. All of the questions could equally apply to vendors that sell search, portals, analytics, community packages and more. In fact, I’m really hoping that the meme spreads. It’s great fun watching it.

    Posted by Jon Marks | March 18, 2009, 4:27 pm
  3. In the comments section of Day’s take (see link above) the original author of the list Kas Thomas has given some insight why he chose these particular questions:

    Quote:
    The list I came up with was arbitrary, of course, and very-high-level. But the intent was to address the most common customer pain points around the procurement and rollout of enterprise software. These pain points coincidentally happen to have a lot to do with how “open” the vendor is. [...]

    Posted by Michael Marth | March 18, 2009, 5:04 pm
  4. So, where are Tridion’s answers? ;)

    As Jon Marks says, the checklist was never meant as a scoring table. But it’s fun watching it go around. SDL Tridion was tagged, coincidentally, as early as Day’s original post.

    Posted by Adriaan Bloem | March 18, 2009, 6:27 pm
  5. @ Michael, I agree with the “open” remark, all the vendors that have responded so far are the open ones. I eagerly await some answers from so not so open ones.

    @ Adriaan, definitely fun. The see how everyone marks themselves, especially in the seriousness – or lack of seriousness – of their answers is great. On the SDL Tridion answers, I will remain mute. :)

    Posted by jules | March 18, 2009, 11:56 pm
  6. [...] Nearly all the scores seem to sit about there. Still no-one who is perfect. Tridion staying quiet. Julian Wraith is keeping a real-time scoreboard. Irina Guseva blogging about it too. Google this GUID to find [...]

    Posted by Celebrity CMS Deathmatch « Jon on Tech | March 19, 2009, 12:41 pm
  7. Maybe you can create a scatter-plot of vendor response time as a function of vendor size?

    Seriously, though, thanks for keeping track of this.

    Posted by Kas Thomas | March 19, 2009, 11:07 pm
  8. CMS Vendor Meme – Nuxeo’s turn…

    We’ve been challengeded by Day Software for a CMS meme, inspired by Kas Thomas’s A reality checklist for vendors. Since it’s kind of fun and we’re not shy, let’s take the challenge, even if we really don’t focus on WCM!……

    Posted by Eric's Blog | March 20, 2009, 2:42 am
  9. Posted by Reality checklist for CMS Vendors | Gunnar's Blog | March 20, 2009, 8:50 pm
  10. I just published Sitecore’s response if you’d like to add that to the running list. You can find it here: http://dguarnaccia.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/cms-vendor-meme-the-sitecore-response/

    Posted by Darre Guarnaccia | March 21, 2009, 12:31 am
  11. [...] I can see. Not that the score really matters. Still no-one who is perfect. Tridion staying quiet. Julian Wraith is keeping a real-time scoreboard. Irina Guseva blogging about it too. Google this GUID to find [...]

    Posted by Celebrity CMS Deathmatch - The Responses Come In « Jon on Tech | March 21, 2009, 6:15 pm
  12. [...] documented by Jon Marks on his blog “Jon on Tech”, Irina Guseva’s blog and Julian Wraith’s blog . Day also do a nice job of describing what the meme is all [...]

    Posted by Alterian CMS Meme Response | Persuasive Content | March 23, 2009, 7:06 pm
  13. Julian Wraith, could you update your CMS vendor list:
    http://blogs.hippo.nl/tjeerd/

    Thanks

    Tjeerd Brenninkmeijer

    Posted by Tjeerd Brenninkmeijer | March 23, 2009, 8:47 pm
  14. [...] searches have indicated that Vignette is writing a new CMS Vendor Meme for Enterprise CMS Vendors. The tweet from @kirstenpetra [...]

    Posted by Julian Wraith | Vignette starts round two? | March 25, 2009, 5:49 pm
  15. check out ez.no response. They rated themselves at 40

    Posted by Gaetano | April 3, 2009, 11:40 am
  16. I’m glad we (Enano CMS) scored so high compared to the others, but then again, being a small project does have some advantages. Nevertheless, I’m impressed with how honest these vendors were in the meme.

    Posted by King InuYasha | April 5, 2009, 7:53 pm
  17. [...] best documented by Jon Marks on his blog “Jon on Tech”, Irina Guseva’s blog and Julian Wraith’s blog . Day also do a nice job of describing what the meme is all [...]

    Posted by Alterian CMS Meme Response /  Persuasive Content | July 18, 2009, 12:17 pm

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